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She also suffered a miscarriage too, and that put the cherry on the cake for Curtis at 23 years old.
This was a fun article.
You are a fag. Jay Ziegler, this was not a fun article.
Wow! I am glad I got that off my chest! And, I'm also glad that people in the 90's could listen to music that indulged their depressed collective sub-concious. Everyone was pissed off and the only thing they had to listen to were pseudo-Bowies minus the irony and a glistening fury of cock-tease pop idols.
"The duty of youth is to challenge corruption."
Kurt Cobain
Grunge was a change in tone, not music. The reason everyone was on their ass when Cobain died was exactly what you said, he was a "pussy" who made the choice to die instead of completely sell out by living a normal life. Aka, the transition from young revolutionary to rich father. Now, hop on by Target and by a t-shirt from every band you mentioned in your article. Also, check out the new episode of "Former Rock God spoils his children and lives in an eccentric and contrived fantasy land" on MTV2. Its on after Sweet Sixteen.
"I've always had a problem with the average macho man - they've always been a threat to me."
Kurt Cobain
Interesting! A backlash on the idea of masculinity, the very crux of most relevant male musicians. You know, Puddle of Mudddd, Nickleback, Nine Inch Nails, Marylin Manson, Emo, indie rock, and everything that has come out of England ever.
I don't listen to grunge, and I don't buy 90s albums, but when American music's chest was ripped apart with boredom, it turns out its heart was still beating. Grunge.
You are a homophobic grunge fan.
I happen to love grunge, but just like Tyler Durden said in "Fight Club," you don't know someone until you fight them. The same can be said here. This was fun because Russell brings up great argumentative points and a worthy adversary is always fun to argue with...whether you like their side of things or not. (Think Batman vs. The Joker)
On top of that, I'm sick to death of Kurt Cobain's martyrdom. The guy was a depressed twenty seven year old decent songwriter who hated life. He didn't kill himself to "preserve good music." That's the biggest bucket of bullshit I've ever heard. He killed himself much like any other unhappy, depressed person would do: he had nothing left in the world for him anymore. Suicide isn't the answer, but damn, I'm sick of these "indie" assholes waving his death around like a badge of honor.
Nirvana wasn't the only grunge band...yes, grunge was a corporate label to issue onto the Seattle scene, even though the big four all had different sounds.
Soundgarden = old school heavy Black Sabbath influenced riffs
Pearl Jam = soulful 60's rock, in the style of CCR and The Velvet Underground
Alice In Chains = practically heavy metal with haunting melodies
Nirvana = a poppy version of Black Flag and The Melvins...thrown in some Beatles.
>>>“I’ve always had a problem with the average macho man - they’ve always been a threat to me.”
Kurt Cobain
Interesting! A backlash on the idea of masculinity, the very crux of most relevant male musicians. You know, Puddle of Mudddd, Nickleback, Nine Inch Nails, Marylin Manson, Emo, indie rock, and everything that has come out of England ever.>>>
Yes, bands like the Thompson Twins, George Michael, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Beatles, Wham!, Culture Club, The Kooks, Pink Floyd and many many many other bands are simply too masculine for their own good. Right. Good call...not!
You have great strength, but piss ass balance. Decent argument, but full of holes. God forbid we attack the things we enjoy out of life. Good article Russell...I love grunge music, but I love also to hear a different viewpoint from it once in a while.
Also, what constitutes an average macho man? Hopefully, Blake the philosopher can answer that.
The 90's had landmark albums and music changing bands. After Alice In Chains stopped, Eddie Vedder calmed down, Soundgarden disbanded, and Kurt killed himself it left bands like Live and Bush to fuck up what GOOD bands did. However there were bands like Radiohead,My Bloody Valentine, and The White Stripes to continue and IMPROVE on what grunge had.
To continue with the whole 90's a shit decade argument. The 90's yeilded a return to soaring melodies and cryptic lyrics with OK Computer, a return to hardcore with a thought with At The Drive In's "Relationship of Command", it also saw the rise of hip-hop with Dre, Pac, Biggie, Tribe, and Jay-Z. Fuck even the over-the-top egos of Billy Corgan and the gallager brothers released albums that are always put on "best albums lists" in Siamiese Dream and Definetly Maybe/(What's The Story) Morning Glory.
So as far 90's sucking as a musical decade, I diagree however people making grunge out as musical saviors from the Ratt's of the world are full of shit and will be tried in the court of the ginger king...lol.